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JD Barker
Christine Daigle
Kevin Tumlinson
Jena Brown

What does it take to succeed as a writer? Join hosts J.D. Barker, Christine Daigle, Kevin Tumlinson and Jena Brown as they pull back the curtain and gain rare insight from the household names found on bookshelves worldwide.

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Eva Lesko Natiello is no stranger to rejection. Despite being unable to secure an agent and having the manuscript of her first book, The Memory Box, rejected eighty-four times, she used her determination and knowledge of marketing to defy expectations and turn her story into a global bestseller. Eva is a NYT bestseller who began her career in the beauty industry before making it big as a writer, and is known for her gripping thriller novels. To order her latest book, Following You, follow the link below.


EVA LESKO NATIELLO is the award-winning, NEW YORK TIMES and USA TODAY bestselling author of psychological thrillers, THE MEMORY BOX and FOLLOWING YOU. She is a graduate of UAlbany with a degree in psychology. Eva is a native of Yonkers, NY and currently lives in suburban New Jersey with her family. THE MEMORY BOX, a debut novel, is a global bestseller and has been a #1 bestselling book on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, iTunes and Kobo and has been translated in multiple languages. Eva has attended over 200 book club discussions of her books. Invite her to yours! When Eva’s not writing suspense novels, she writes humor and satire and posts about writing and self-publishing on her website ( and for The Huffington Post. She loves the creative process: painting, gardening, singing or re-purposing (though many D.I.Y. projects have been fraught with disaster, it doesn’t seem to stop her). She is a thought leader and speaker and is a self-publishing and book marketing coach.

In this episode, you’ll discover:

  • Why Eva never thought she’d become a writer
  • How she narrowed her audience and chose to independently publish
  • The power of free sampling
  • The importance of momentum


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  1. Christopher Wills

    2 years ago  

    What a great interview. I love the way Eva thinks, which is ignore some of the Indie rhetoric and think laterally. Getting her book on the NY Times bestseller list is an achievement; not sure I’ve heard any other Indies do that with fiction.
    But the key here is one must have a great product first. Some spend a lot of time and money trying to market a sow’s ear but they will never get it to sell like a silk purse.
    “When people get something of value for free…” As your podcast intro states, “it all starts with a good book…”
    This interview reminded me that I have books on odd marketing methods, which I got interested in while studying for my MBA. I recall things like making postcards of your product and leaving them in taxis, phone boxes and restaurants around London. And getting a sand artist to ‘draw’ a large image of your product on a sandy beach and get an aircraft to photograph it – today a drone would suffice. Thinking laterally is something I enjoy.
    Great show, worth a second listen.

    1. J. Thorn

      2 years ago  

      I love the way Eva thinks too!

  2. Patrick O'Donnell

    2 years ago  

    This was such a great interview. She made me think, “What am I doing to push the needle?”
    Keep these brilliant shows coming gents!!

    1. J. Thorn

      2 years ago  


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